Can we please, please – PLEASE! not make the nonsensical US date format month/day/year the default in applications? 🤦♂️
PRE 👏 TTY 👏 PLEASE
And to all users of that format: it makes no sense, it's counter-intuitive, it makes collaboration frustrating, it introduces inconsistencies and errors... Just stop. Please. Use international standards.
(And don't get me started on your other units of weights, volumes and distances. Bloody hell.)
Boost if I'm right.
@zensaiyuki @stragu on the contrary, implementations should definitely not be restricted to the mere Internet.
@zensaiyuki
Where is “here” for you?
Here for me, for instance, the week date is pervasive in IDs for various processes as it does not reveal much exploitable info about volumes or rates of work in the time spans of interest to competitors.
I didn’t know about RFC3339, thanks. For others who don’t, here’s a quick glance using the date(1) command:
ISO 8601: date +"%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%Z" (or date -Iseconds with GNU date)
RFC 3339: date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S%:z" (or date --rfc-3339=s with GNU date)
@stragu ISO-8601 or death
@stragu YESSSSSS SO MUCH THISSSSS.
@virtualwolf @stragu Now do "national flags to indicate written languages"
@hugh @virtualwolf @stragu Cheers from a country with three official languages
@hugh @virtualwolf @stragu I totally agree with that one. It bothers me so much. I used to create the CMS middleware behind many a website. Our designers always chose country flags for language choice. But our neighbour country was Belgium: they speak 4 languages or more... and none of those are represented by the Belgium country flag.
@stragu yyyy.mm.dd or go home
@stragu YMD or DMY. MDY is cursed
@stragu the least confusing format which has no ambiguous counterpart is yyyy-mm-dd :)
@jackdaniel @stragu and that one results in better sorting on most default settings
@stragu I use YY/MM/DD since lexicographical order and chronological order coincide.
@stragu you’re correct insofar as asserting that this is a bad practice. incorrect insofar as assuming you will get americans to care.
@stragu and display timezones as GMT+nn, I have absolutely no w@#$@#$ idea why central mountain time is!
@ajft @stragu To stay neutral then UTC is probably better than GMT, see https://www.timeanddate.com/time/gmt-utc-time.html ; this also avoids the AM/PM format that is just confusing, like all timezones abbreviations when they are not of the format "Continent or Country/City" (sometimes even a state in the US can have 2 legal timezones at the same time, depending on the city you are in)
@LunaDragofelis @stragu Agreed, I think I replied about that. Old habit that I first learnt it as GMT and keep referring to it that way. (repeats to self, UTC, UTC, UTC..)
Small reminder : https://xkcd.com/1179/
@stragu "American date format, invented by me it was" (Yoda)
Also abandon feet, miles, inches, pinches, furlongs, gallons and other archaic and confusing units.
@stragu my ranking of best formats:
1. UTC unix time (for APIs and stuff)
2. ISO 8601
3. everything else
@stragu ISO-8601 YYYY-MM-DD only. The euro DD-MM-YYYY is the worst, it sorts by day. At least the US one sorts by month, then day, so a 1-year archive is correct.
#date #iso8601 #hasaposse
@stragu
month/day/year - American
day/month/year - European
year/month/day - International
@stragu
Oookayyy, an when should they start it ?
On 12AM or 12PM
@stragu I need more accounts here to boost this. Like a few thousand more.
@stragu I lived here for most of my life at this point and it still makes no freaking sense.
@stragu ISO 8601 or GTFO